What do people think if they do not try to get the miners out of the mine in Utah?
There has to be some way they can get to them. I hope the owners have lots of money, with the law suits they will be faced with. The families need some kind of closure.
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I agree the families need closure. If it were my husband or brother or father, I would want to at least have his body to bury properly and so I would know where his body is. I know it is highly unlikely they are still alive, but what if they ran to a cavern that did or does have sufficient oxygen? What if they they saved their headlamps and are only using them when they absolutely have to? What if they came across an area that had running water? What if they had lunch boxes down there with them full of food? So many what ifs. No one knows. They could still be alive. If I had away there and money...There would be no way you could keep my butt out of that mine. I would dig a small tunnel just big enough for my body to crawl through and drag a nap sack of supplies behind me and I would go through the mine and find them myself. I cant believe it has taken them as long as it has to dig. There had to of been some way to do it faster and safer. Rather the families get rich or not doesnt matter. They and alot of other people will consider the mine owners and others murderers because we dont know rather they are dead or alive. If they died during the collapse, or died somewhere safer because they halted the rescue operations. The rescuers that died are heroes, because they died trying. At least their families have closure and have their bodies and know what happened to them. Rather it be robotics as some posts have mentioned or digging a bigger hole on top of the mountain, or even digging a smaller hole inside the mountain to get through the rubble, there has got to be someway for someone to get inside and find out what happened. There has also got to be away to deal with the stability of the mine and the mountain. Wood, steel beams, something...This hole mess just urks me. I have been doing daily searchs on yahoo to read the latest updates on the mine and I dont know anyone in it. One question that my kids keep asking me is why they are still drilling for coal when it is hardly used anymore? And I dont really have the answer to that question. I am sure it is still used, I just dont know for what. Sorry to ramble, I just wanted to be able to express my 2 cents about the whole ordeal.
no one wants more people dying in the attempt.
if it's not safe, then that's that.
The miners are dead, we need to face that fact. The oxygen level is possible to live in, but it'd be the equivalent of running a marathon... for two weeks. On top of that, there's no food and hardly any water, and it's pitch dark; and all of that is assuming they weren't killed immediately when the mine collapsed (which is what probably happened).
All of that said, three rescue workers were killed. The way it's seen, there's no sense risking lives for a lost cause.
Still, the entire operation was a disaster, and yes, the families will be very rich when this is over.
You are asking a hypothetical that is no longer vbalid.
There has been enormous effort to try to get the miners out of the Utah disaster ... some methods have failed, most recently 3 more miners got killed ... but they have not yet given up.
Mine families are accustomed to not getting closure because this is a very dangerous type of work.
The mine owners ought to have lots of insurance.
Ultimately we will get all the answers from the mine safety investigation, but by that time no one will be interested any more, because of short attention span of TV news viewers and TV news people.
I think it is the responsibility of the mining company to do everything possible, without risk to any more rescue workers, to retrieve the bodies. It is a given, at this point, that there are no survivors. However, with the equipment mining companies already possess, they can locate the bodies. They don't seem to have a problem locating coal or any other resources. They spare no expense in buying equipment to mine for coal. Yet, their dead employees...I guess that's not as important to them.
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I agree the families need closure. If it were my husband or brother or father, I would want to at least have his body to bury properly and so I would know where his body is. I know it is highly unlikely they are still alive, but what if they ran to a cavern that did or does have sufficient oxygen? What if they they saved their headlamps and are only using them when they absolutely have to? What if they came across an area that had running water? What if they had lunch boxes down there with them full of food? So many what ifs. No one knows. They could still be alive. If I had away there and money...There would be no way you could keep my butt out of that mine. I would dig a small tunnel just big enough for my body to crawl through and drag a nap sack of supplies behind me and I would go through the mine and find them myself. I cant believe it has taken them as long as it has to dig. There had to of been some way to do it faster and safer. Rather the families get rich or not doesnt matter. They and alot of other people will consider the mine owners and others murderers because we dont know rather they are dead or alive. If they died during the collapse, or died somewhere safer because they halted the rescue operations. The rescuers that died are heroes, because they died trying. At least their families have closure and have their bodies and know what happened to them. Rather it be robotics as some posts have mentioned or digging a bigger hole on top of the mountain, or even digging a smaller hole inside the mountain to get through the rubble, there has got to be someway for someone to get inside and find out what happened. There has also got to be away to deal with the stability of the mine and the mountain. Wood, steel beams, something...This hole mess just urks me. I have been doing daily searchs on yahoo to read the latest updates on the mine and I dont know anyone in it. One question that my kids keep asking me is why they are still drilling for coal when it is hardly used anymore? And I dont really have the answer to that question. I am sure it is still used, I just dont know for what. Sorry to ramble, I just wanted to be able to express my 2 cents about the whole ordeal.
no one wants more people dying in the attempt.
if it's not safe, then that's that.
The miners are dead, we need to face that fact. The oxygen level is possible to live in, but it'd be the equivalent of running a marathon... for two weeks. On top of that, there's no food and hardly any water, and it's pitch dark; and all of that is assuming they weren't killed immediately when the mine collapsed (which is what probably happened).
All of that said, three rescue workers were killed. The way it's seen, there's no sense risking lives for a lost cause.
Still, the entire operation was a disaster, and yes, the families will be very rich when this is over.
You are asking a hypothetical that is no longer vbalid.
There has been enormous effort to try to get the miners out of the Utah disaster ... some methods have failed, most recently 3 more miners got killed ... but they have not yet given up.
Mine families are accustomed to not getting closure because this is a very dangerous type of work.
The mine owners ought to have lots of insurance.
Ultimately we will get all the answers from the mine safety investigation, but by that time no one will be interested any more, because of short attention span of TV news viewers and TV news people.
I think it is the responsibility of the mining company to do everything possible, without risk to any more rescue workers, to retrieve the bodies. It is a given, at this point, that there are no survivors. However, with the equipment mining companies already possess, they can locate the bodies. They don't seem to have a problem locating coal or any other resources. They spare no expense in buying equipment to mine for coal. Yet, their dead employees...I guess that's not as important to them.
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