Would people actually think it to be an invasion of privacy.?
If everyone, at least in the US to start, were asked to give fingerprint and DNA samples. If they have nothing to hide there should be no problem right. Let alone think of all the unsolved crimes that could be solved and the fact that people would be more afraid to commit a crime knowing that their samples are on file.
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The theory that if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't care is contrary to the very concept of American freedom. The government needs to have a rational basis before it can investigate you. Allowing the government to compile a database of information on all of its citizens would strike at the very core of individual liberty. I may have nothing to hide, but it is not my burden to prove that. Would the government be allowed to come search through my home, simply to make sure I'm innocent, without me complaining because I've done nothing wrong? Of course not. The same standard applies here.
You're kidding right? People would be screaming about the mere suggestion.
I don't agree with this type of thing, but I'd do it. Makes sense, but hopefully it will never happen.
Yes it's an invasioin of privacy, we don't need the government sticking it's nose in our buiness any more than it already does!
I would take it very seriously as an invasion of privacy. If YOU have nothing to hide, then will you allow me to enter your house and look through everything? You can check me as I leave to ensure I haven't taken anything.
The freedoms allowed in the US do make for criminals to have an easier time. But that is a sacrifice we have made to ensure everyone can own their property (and body) without fear of search and seizure without cause.
And we should arrest all blond people...why does it matter because people with black hair have nothing to hide..fabulous logic you use my man...keep giving up your rights and the Chinese will be you saviors.
It would not bother me, I have nothing to hide. It would for sure help solving crimes faster.
It sounds like a great idea in theory but one problem is not all people in the world are honest. So lets say one these people who works in a facility where your DNA is stored wants to commit a heinous crime, then plants your DNA at the scene.
It's just the start of a slippery slope.I'm not ready to live in that world yet.
i personally have nothing against this cause i aint got nothing to hide, but i know millions of people would not go for this. even the ones with noting to hide. just the idea that someone - "big brother" is privy to your personal stuff.
A lttle something called the 4th and 5th amendments to the Constitution. Fingerprinting is to be done after the arrest. To do it to law-abiding citizens is search and seizure without just cause.
Gee, nobody would think to wear gloves during the commission of a crime.
I have no problem with it. But all the whiney freaks out there would complain. If you have nothing to hide, then what's the problem?
The "if you have nothing to hide it does'nt matter" bs is just a line used by Americans that have been brainwashed to beleive they're in constant danger. I already have enough reasons to not care if there are people out there that want to take down our government.
It's not so much more of an invasion of privacy than already exists. The government issues all citizens a social security card, driver's license, eventually everyone will need a passport. Law enforcement can always access records of your utility and phone bills to determine your address, and if you are suspect in a crime they can request your DNA.
I don't think this will happen, it would be quite costly to start such a program to catalog every US citizen's DNA.
I personally would support such a process. An idea would be that prior to getting your driver's license or state ID card (teens/immigrants) or SS card (at birth) this information would become part of the national/federal Database (Db). With all the fingerprints on file at check processors and the like, it seems that a plan of collaboration wouldn't be unthinkable. Another benefit would be in healthcare management and claims fraud which is just as much a savings for tax payers as a crime Db.
There is actually a Republican representative who says that ALL Americans should be drug tested, constanty.
In order to curtail illegal immigration and activity from Mexico.
What the government could do is to consider issuing Smart Identity Cards to all citizens for which people may be required to provide fingerprints etc.
Any time you have to say, "If they have nothing to hide, there should be no problem," you're invariably dealing with an invasion of privacy at the least, more likely a blatant breach of the 4th Amendment. This case is no exception.
In a small way the schools have done the finger prints already, but generally they didn't take care to see that the prints were clear.
I don't have a problem with that. I think they should do it at birth.
Conceptually it would be no different from what they do now, by taking baby footprints and recording them on birth certificates. Or by requiring fingerprints for applying for certain types of permits/licenses, etc.
It is about identification. No different than taking a photograph for a driver's license.
The problem is that taking DNA is viewed as being much more intrusive. However it is the best identifier out there.
The dirty truth is actually quite simple, we all want to get away with stuff, at least for some things. As a rule, however, no one wants to admit that, that is why we all fear a police state. It is human nature. The way we reconcile a civilized orderly society with a natural desire to get away with some stuff is by creating some kind of "right to privacy" concept. As long as we keep certain of our skeletons out of the public eye, as a society we decide that it is better to leave that alone than go on witch hunts.
I see nothing wrong with it. As technology improves, law enforcement should also. I don't see where it would be a privacy issue.
Well, if an officer came to my door and asked to look around in my house, I would ask him for a warrant. If he didn't have one, I would refuse to let him in. It's not that I have something to hide, but in the USA, if we don't defend our freedoms they will slowly get chipped away. Perhaps not having such a system of fingerprints and DNA samples lets criminals off the hook, but it's the price we pay for living in a country with such good civil liberties. All criminals get their fingerprints on file anyway!
i think it would be a great idea to have a DNA database. you can say it's an invasion of privacy if you want, but personally i believe it would be a small sacrifice to make to ensure that more child molesters and rapist get caught and actually prosecuted. it would definitely alleviate a lot of the emotional trauma kids have to go though during the whole testifying and court process.
and yes, like the osborne chick suggested, there would likely be a dishonest person who take advantage of that power position and authority, but that already happens -judges, prison wardens, um, presidents?
the end result would far outweigh any of that. more crimes would actually get solved, more criminals would actually be caught and punished. more victims and their families would have the peace and satisfaction of justice served.
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The theory that if you have nothing to hide you shouldn't care is contrary to the very concept of American freedom. The government needs to have a rational basis before it can investigate you. Allowing the government to compile a database of information on all of its citizens would strike at the very core of individual liberty. I may have nothing to hide, but it is not my burden to prove that. Would the government be allowed to come search through my home, simply to make sure I'm innocent, without me complaining because I've done nothing wrong? Of course not. The same standard applies here.
You're kidding right? People would be screaming about the mere suggestion.
I don't agree with this type of thing, but I'd do it. Makes sense, but hopefully it will never happen.
Yes it's an invasioin of privacy, we don't need the government sticking it's nose in our buiness any more than it already does!
I would take it very seriously as an invasion of privacy. If YOU have nothing to hide, then will you allow me to enter your house and look through everything? You can check me as I leave to ensure I haven't taken anything.
The freedoms allowed in the US do make for criminals to have an easier time. But that is a sacrifice we have made to ensure everyone can own their property (and body) without fear of search and seizure without cause.
And we should arrest all blond people...why does it matter because people with black hair have nothing to hide..fabulous logic you use my man...keep giving up your rights and the Chinese will be you saviors.
It would not bother me, I have nothing to hide. It would for sure help solving crimes faster.
It sounds like a great idea in theory but one problem is not all people in the world are honest. So lets say one these people who works in a facility where your DNA is stored wants to commit a heinous crime, then plants your DNA at the scene.
It's just the start of a slippery slope.I'm not ready to live in that world yet.
i personally have nothing against this cause i aint got nothing to hide, but i know millions of people would not go for this. even the ones with noting to hide. just the idea that someone - "big brother" is privy to your personal stuff.
A lttle something called the 4th and 5th amendments to the Constitution. Fingerprinting is to be done after the arrest. To do it to law-abiding citizens is search and seizure without just cause.
Gee, nobody would think to wear gloves during the commission of a crime.
I have no problem with it. But all the whiney freaks out there would complain. If you have nothing to hide, then what's the problem?
The "if you have nothing to hide it does'nt matter" bs is just a line used by Americans that have been brainwashed to beleive they're in constant danger. I already have enough reasons to not care if there are people out there that want to take down our government.
It's not so much more of an invasion of privacy than already exists. The government issues all citizens a social security card, driver's license, eventually everyone will need a passport. Law enforcement can always access records of your utility and phone bills to determine your address, and if you are suspect in a crime they can request your DNA.
I don't think this will happen, it would be quite costly to start such a program to catalog every US citizen's DNA.
I personally would support such a process. An idea would be that prior to getting your driver's license or state ID card (teens/immigrants) or SS card (at birth) this information would become part of the national/federal Database (Db). With all the fingerprints on file at check processors and the like, it seems that a plan of collaboration wouldn't be unthinkable. Another benefit would be in healthcare management and claims fraud which is just as much a savings for tax payers as a crime Db.
There is actually a Republican representative who says that ALL Americans should be drug tested, constanty.
In order to curtail illegal immigration and activity from Mexico.
What the government could do is to consider issuing Smart Identity Cards to all citizens for which people may be required to provide fingerprints etc.
Any time you have to say, "If they have nothing to hide, there should be no problem," you're invariably dealing with an invasion of privacy at the least, more likely a blatant breach of the 4th Amendment. This case is no exception.
In a small way the schools have done the finger prints already, but generally they didn't take care to see that the prints were clear.
I don't have a problem with that. I think they should do it at birth.
Conceptually it would be no different from what they do now, by taking baby footprints and recording them on birth certificates. Or by requiring fingerprints for applying for certain types of permits/licenses, etc.
It is about identification. No different than taking a photograph for a driver's license.
The problem is that taking DNA is viewed as being much more intrusive. However it is the best identifier out there.
The dirty truth is actually quite simple, we all want to get away with stuff, at least for some things. As a rule, however, no one wants to admit that, that is why we all fear a police state. It is human nature. The way we reconcile a civilized orderly society with a natural desire to get away with some stuff is by creating some kind of "right to privacy" concept. As long as we keep certain of our skeletons out of the public eye, as a society we decide that it is better to leave that alone than go on witch hunts.
I see nothing wrong with it. As technology improves, law enforcement should also. I don't see where it would be a privacy issue.
Well, if an officer came to my door and asked to look around in my house, I would ask him for a warrant. If he didn't have one, I would refuse to let him in. It's not that I have something to hide, but in the USA, if we don't defend our freedoms they will slowly get chipped away. Perhaps not having such a system of fingerprints and DNA samples lets criminals off the hook, but it's the price we pay for living in a country with such good civil liberties. All criminals get their fingerprints on file anyway!
i think it would be a great idea to have a DNA database. you can say it's an invasion of privacy if you want, but personally i believe it would be a small sacrifice to make to ensure that more child molesters and rapist get caught and actually prosecuted. it would definitely alleviate a lot of the emotional trauma kids have to go though during the whole testifying and court process.
and yes, like the osborne chick suggested, there would likely be a dishonest person who take advantage of that power position and authority, but that already happens -judges, prison wardens, um, presidents?
the end result would far outweigh any of that. more crimes would actually get solved, more criminals would actually be caught and punished. more victims and their families would have the peace and satisfaction of justice served.
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